This is counter productive to the site, to sub-forum and for anyone that is truly looking for "options". Amateur radio has its place. I will advocate for it until the day I die. But I would have to be a half-cocked arrogant dude to assume that it is the only solution, or that it is right for every single person with the beheld common interest that this site represents.
Discussion of actual truly by the letter of the law illegal activities aside. I really think that the three communities that reside in this subforum would do better for each other by embracing the differences in needs and abilities. Those people being uninitiated, hams, and people who favor the other radio services available.
I am ashamed of any ham that goes automatically to the lowest common denominator and invokes the cb or non-ham people are less of a person/operator than they are. Let's get real. Re-read everything above this again until you understand my point here.
Fact is some of the major prepper related networks are inclusive. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? And promote a cross radio services approach. You know redundancy.... Because not everyone has the time, inclination, ability, or fiscal wherewithal to go balls out into ham radio.
All this said. All hams need to do to see this problem is look into our own volunteer organizations and the state of our services and hobbies. They are not healthy. Nuff said. Let's not bring what makes those services what they are due to the bad apples here and air it out on non hams.
CB is a real and valid communications solution. GMRS and FRS and MURS are also equally valid and useful and worthwhile communication solutions. There is no one thing fits all for a real shtf. Take a look at a real EOC and you will soon realize more than ham radio is involved.
I'm an amateur extra, I know code. I build and experiment with RF related electronics. I operate portable and mobile. I would never talk down to someone that is into GMRS or FRS or MURS or CB or just an avid listening enthusiast whether that be SWL or local infrastructure and digital services. All are equally useful and valid. Get over yourselves.
I would ask that both sides lay down the stereotypes and malignant attitudes. If you have a problem with someone please just use the /ignore feature. Instead of responding to someone who is clearly causing a problem use the report post feature. Do not drag the drama out for all to see and because nauseated with. The moderators will cure the problem trust me when I say this. As a former moderator and staffer for this site I can't tell you how many simple disagreements or lack of emotional conveyance in this text has ended up causing so much anguish and lament. Stop it. Do not respond. Stop being passive aggressive.
We are here to learn from each other. Everyone has some kind of experience or knowledge to offer others. We are one of the most viewed forums on the internet much less within our given niche. This is the Communications sub forum, not the darkside, and not a place to play out petty vindictive vendettas because the toys you choose to play with are better than everyone elses in your opinion. They are all equally valid.
Let's take a moment and think about the advice given to us by our parents or clergy or where ever. If you don't have anything kind to say do not say anything.
While making groups is great, I'd like to see open discussion here in the forum itself. All inclusive. That is not to say great things can't happen in group because they can. But those are not searchable by search engines indexing the site. We could miss bringing more into the fold or answer an obscure question one of us has innate experience with.
Seriously. Let's be a communications team. Let's learn from our networks and share ideas so we can become more proficient operators or better listeners. Most of all lets be better human beings to each other.
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